Poet Spoon Jackson has won awards from PEN America, provided lyrics for Ani DiFranco, and collaborated with Swedish composer Stefan Säfsten — all while serving time. Now, Spoon is a producer for Uncuffed, KALW’s new series created by men at Solano State Prison.

Spoon has spent 41 years in custody. He is serving life sentence without the opportunity to parole.

Two different producers for Uncuffed decided to interview Spoon, and created audio pieces featuring his voice and his poetry. We aired a condensed version of the two interviews on Crosscurrents, which you can listen to above.

Click here to listen to their interviews.